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The ROBOTS
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STRATEGY GUIDE
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By YOUR Command... The Robotic Imperium The Robots (or Cylons) are based upon the race from BattleStar Galctica. Nasty and efficient. As allies: Their are pretty good. They have carriers, and one torp ship. They can make 4x the number of mines as anyone else. They can make fighters in space, which you can use to fill your Biocides. Their Golem is nice, and their Automa is one of the wickedest ships around. They’d like your FCs, and any torp ship you have. Their Pawn Baseship has a full bioscanner and will scan ALL planets within 200lys (host default). As enemies: A nuisance. Their ships are big and bad, but your cubes can nail them. Sweep the huge fields that they have. Be patient, just like you would fighting the Crystals. He’ll use his Golems and Automas to attack, but having a few cubes nearby will take care of that. They need Duranium like mad, so pull it from planets. Pull either Tritanium or Moly (or both) to prevent their fighter building too. Deprive them of their basic economic needs and assimilate the Bots. Read my guide (“Dittering Diodes: Autarch’s Guide to the Robots”) to get a basic grasp of the Bots. I’ll send it to you if you can find it in a web site. Distinctive Diodes: Autarch's Guide to the Robots I don't need to tell you about mining, do I? Use the Cat's Paw for escorts if you need one. It's not optimal but the only thing you have - all others are either too weak or too heavy. Well, whoever has the Robots as one of his/her races can make ENORMOUS mine fields, essentially for free. In case you haven't seen other posts on this, Here's what you do: Robot sends torpedo ship to Starbase of ally. Ally's starbase set to LOAD TORPS. (Friendly codes must match). Robot lays mines in ally's identity, getting 4X bonus. Ally sweeps mines, puts them back on starbase. Repeat. Each cycle gives you 4X as many mines, leading to an enormous minefield. In the world of VGA planets, the three 'true' fighter races helds the edge in frontal assault, and out of the three, my personal favorite is the Robots. Why? Because I feel that the Robots have the best offensive and DEFENSIVE mix out of all three major fighter races. So I would like to share some strategies with you would-be Cylon masterminds out there. I.Ships The robots have a limited ip selections... and out of all of them, only four types of ships are worth building (besides the freight and alchemy ships): Golem, Instrumentality, Cats Paw, anQ tanker. Golem is the king of the battlefield, and not much more needs to be said about it. Instrumentality should be your backbone because they are 'relatively' cheap compared to other carriers of yours in term firepower and cost ratio, and also because 2 instrumental together can annhilate almost ANY ships in the galaxy (assuming the instrumentality are fully stocked, that is) Cats Paw is the ONLY ship of yours that can carry torp and mine, so built LOTs of it and mine the galaxy. Q tanker is your fuel carrier and fighter factory rolled in one, so have a lot of it. II. Ships you REALLY want to get... 1) Gemini class freighter... The Rebel and he Colony e an edge on you because of it. Acquire a few of them and your instrumentality strike group won't need 4 Q tankers anymore. 2) Cloakers with sizable cargo and big fuel tanks... like the White Falcon, Fearless wing, Lizard Class, MBR, Coldpain, etc. Use the cloakers to mine the hell out of your oppoents. Nothing hurts more then having one's major resupply routes mined to hell. 3) MBR. Someone mentioned using MBR to tow super carriers to battle. This could especially create an element of suprise if you have a cloaked MBR meet the carrier task force at a planet some 81+ - 162 light years away from its target. Then use the MBR to tow the carrier throught to the strike target... You got therene turn earler then expected. There goes his planet. But this trick usually only works the first time, once they know you got a MBR, game's up. III.Great things to do as the Robot: Go exterminate the privateers... The Robots are dangerous opponets to the privateers, almost as bad as the crystals. So hire out to exterminate the space scums. The way to elminate the privateers as the Robots is 1) Use cloaker to mine if possible. 2) Mine alot. 3) Use shitty ships scarifices to find out where are the privateer starbases 4) Mine somemore 5) send in STRIKE GROUPS of instrumentality with fuel carriers who are pepturally transfering fuel to destroy privateer starbase. 6) Mine somemore. With the Robots, mine your way to victory. I found small fields with diameter of 50 ly is about optimal. Oh, one last thing... Find a cloaking race to be your friend, you need those cloakingne layers. Thanx....I play the robots...hehehe How about a planet with 100 DP and a starbase with 60 fighters? In one of my games I play the Robots. Few months ago I destroyed the home planet of the Bird Men. One Instrumentality was quite enough. 100 defence posts is a piece of cake. This planet had about 200 defence posts and 200 at the base. My ship took 70 % damage. Here is some strategy tow the Instrumentality (I usually do since it needs four engines) with a Cat's Paw Destroyer. If you run into a mine field use the Cat's Paw to lay a bigger one remember that x4 mining advantage. Towed ships can't be hit and the cat'w paw has enough cargo space to repair itself in space with supplies. ============================================================================= shimes@ix.netcom.com (Scott Himes ) wrote: I'm playing in a game as the robots, for my first time. Can some one give me some help on playing as the robots (ex. ships to build, actions, allies to make, and other stuff) Oh also we're in about turn 6. Okay, here's what U want to do. First off, depending on how the host is setup, U might have a Cat's Paw (your ONLY torp ship) with 300 torps already on it. Send your Cat's Paw to a nearby planet, peferably CLOSE to your homeworld, and set the mission to lay mines. There's your advantage. The robots lay 4 times the amount of mines per torp than the other races. In turns down the road a little ways, have all your Cat's Paws go to some planet and have their friendly code on "mkt" and have the minerals and $$$ on board that will produce torps (same ratio as for SB's...). Then have the ships lay mines as the mission. This strategy is currently working wonders for me in a game I'm playing currently. You'll have massive mine fields all over the place. Otherwise, Cat's Paws really aren't very good for much else. The next thing U want to do after that first Cat's Paw is taken care of is colonizing. LG Deep Space Freighters and Super Freighters. Just get them out as fast as possible and try to conquer as many unknown planets as possible. Do the normal strategy of trying to be neighborly of course. Setup borders, and be careful to not dump a huge mine field on top of your ally....it upsets them.... Once U get a few Large Freighters heading off in different directions, begin building Q tankers... put Warp 1 engines on it, because U want them right there around your SB's... Once built, put 1 fuel on them, change their Friendly code to "lfm" and their mission to build fighters. From then on, the only thing U do with your Q tankers is every turn remove as many fighters off each as possible and place them on your fighter carriers, and any extra, try to store on the SB....until that overflows. It is not uncommon for me to have 5 or more Q tankers in orbit around each of my SB's...but then I make over 160 fighters every turn from them. After U get the first 1 or 2 Q tankers produced, build your best ship - Instrumentality class. It's relatively cheap for how strong it is. This is an excellent ship! U want a whole fleet of them, with only occassional Golem Carriers too. Until U produce 80 fighters from your Q tankers, keep that Instrumentality in orbit with lfm and build fighters. Once U hit 80 fighters, fill up the Instrumentality class, change its Fcode and Mission and send it off. BTW, the Instrumentality's should have lasers on them. They recharge faster than the bigger weapons...that way when U fight another fighter carrier, U can blast more fighters faster. Even though my strategy sounds like it'll leave U kinda undefended for the first several turns, you're not. Your mine field(s) will be a considerable defensive power if another race decides to come after you. You'll enjoy reading the many Distress calls from enemy ships that have hit your mines. Quite entertaining. And then when U begin to mass produce those Instrumentality Classes....you've got a fleet that isn't going to be ignored. With your Q tankers making at least 80 fighters a turn on the SB that U eventually decide has enough resources to produce several Instrumentalitys...U've got yourself a production line. Good luck, hope I helped!!! mlandsea@netusa1.net (SWAMi) =============================================================================
This is all very good advice to the beginning Robot Player. I would add however, that back on Turn 1 you should build a Pawn Class. This is not a particularly good ship, but it does have native lifeform scanners which can be of invaluable assistance when colonizing. Build it - set it on sensor sweep and identify native worlds for your LDSF's to colonize. .Robert rtrifts@idirect.com ============================================================================= =============================================================================
I read this newsgroup every now and again, and notice tips for almost At every race except for the Robots. Well, I'm asking. Anybody got and At tips for the Robots? Duranium I find to be a major problem, and the At fact that the Intrumentalitys use up grevious amounts of fuel. At I am also (unfortunately) playing the unregistered game, so a At slight bias towards uniregistered version would be nice. At Cheers. So. That duranium problem could easily be avoided if you just were playing in a registered game... All that I can now think of is to establish good freighter routes to feed your bases with dur. (Or maybe get a humanoid planet, build a base - and Merlin and tow it to a bovinoid planet) To other tactics: mine. Mine a lot (4x). Build Cat's Pawns and fill the echo cluster with your mines. It's really quite fun, actually [;] Build Q-tankers, too. They are good to move with your Instru strike groups (fuel) and are excellent fighter builders. You could build couple of them with low tech engines and leave them on top of your star base as stationary builders. There's no point in building (IMHO) another capital ships than Cat's, Q-tankers or Instrus. As a Robot, you have the very best tech 6 capital ship in the whole game -in fact, two Instrus are able to kick almost any ships butt (if they are filled with fighters, that is, an empty Instru is no good). When you are attacking, use your miners to make enormous fields, it's the fastest way to remove your foes minefields. It makes travelling much more comfortable to your ships, and hazardous for his/her ships. (If you want to get really mean, trade/steal/buy a cloaking miner and use it to mine your enemys freighter routes into a hell. It hurts, believe me!) mika.ahvonen@sharenet.com (Mika Ahvonen) ============================================================================= SHANNON LYNDS wrote: Opinions wanted: Which is the best Robotic ship to "mass produce"? Personally, I never buy the pawn or Cybernaught: Pathetic and costly The instramentally, Automa, and Golom are the ones I buy. WHICH is the best all round ship? At this moment in time I think the best "spear head" ship is the Automa, due to its hull mass and CARGO room (to build lost fighters). The instrumentallys, although awesome, would need local fuel tankers to produce fighters for them. I think The Instrumentallies are best for patrolling the parimeters of the Robotic empire for defence, or for expendable losses when fighting a huge ship like the Gorbie.(enough fighters for one battle:-) An instrumentally followed by a Golom will stop single ship. So.....go with the Automas??? Thanks for your time, Shannon The Instrumentality is generally known as the best all-purpose Robotic ship. For extra fighters, you can either build a stripped down low-tech Golem or you can probably trade or steal a Gemini Class from the Rebels or Colonies. Regards, Victor Victor ============================================================================= duranium,not much tri and mol. also buiding fighter is taking tri and mol and supply not duranium. that is reason that robot is given an advantage then other carrier race. tip is simple, take a notice to duranium and make a trans route by duranium. constantly consider 'at next turn, how many duranium will remind?' futhermore it is stupid to make all robot ship with trans warp (not if there is many many Credit and material).just make ins,atoma,golem with level 1 or 2 engines. and tow them with Q-tanker or cat's claw. but to assault to enermy defence line, it is needed for few ins,atoma, golem with trans warp. and it's not necessary to equip robotship with hitech beamweapon. because robot's 4Xmine can replace of mine sweep(not if your enemy is Crystal) building robot ship is limited as follow - pawn baseship:for bio scanner, build this one in early. - cat's claw destroyer :use to lay mine - Instrumentality baseship:top battleship in share! - atoma baseship :take a few Credit than Ins.and continually fight without fighter supply. - golem baseship :ranked best ship with virgo,gorby,biocide.(if your enermy is a Heavy carrier race, make this) try best to abtain cloak ship :use them a suprise 4Xmine lay. try best to abtain gemini :good fighter maker and tranporter (if your enermy is colony or rebel. surely get this ship by trading or capturing or you are short for fighter supply) as my experiences..fuel is the biggest weak point of robot. so my advice to robot player about attacking, keep in mind this word 'concentrate your attack' do not careless attack,concentrate your baseship at boader and collect fuel, and then use cat's claw lay mine(using cloaker is better). then let your all baseship charge to your enermy at the same time. enermy ship is isolated by mine,then you can defeat one by one. 'not ACT as your enermy expect' sorry for my TERRIBLE english :) ============================================================================= First thing to remember about the Bots is that although they can build free fighters, they can't build many at once, the Q tanker makes only 12 per turn, verses 30-40 for the rebel and colonial factories, so you will need 3-4 over your homeworld, and a couple tagging along with your fleet using the 'lfm' friendly code to keep up the supply. Also, although the Bots have decent ships, they are quite heavy (need lots of fuel) and are quite expensive, so don't through them away in rabid assaults just because you're one of the 'heavy' races. Never fight a single battle unless you're surrounded by your own mines. You make 4 times the mine units per torp, which translates into minefields with 2 times the radius for the same money, use this advantage without mercy, and blanket your traget cluster/planet with mines before you move in, even before the enemy knows you are there. Lay mines with precision, always getting the maximum overlap, and always without any warning. Remember that minefields, cool though they are, do not last long against someone who is prepared for them (ie: has heavy beam ships in the area) but they slow down the enemy immensely, preventing the reinforcement of that critical enemy starbase for the 2-3 turns it will take to reduce it to slag. Minefields will also stop freighters and small cloakers from making a run for it, enabling you to pound them at will while the enemy's capital ships look on uselessly from the outside of the minefield. You need money, lots of it, especially in the fight against cloakers. To effectively deal with the cloaking races, you will have to 'walk' a series of minefields all the way to them, to protect your capital ships from being intercepted. (the Q tankers are especially vulnerable to a cloaked intercept, and without them, your instrumentality's cargo hold just doesn't have enough to launch a serious attack. Be careful with your Cats Paws, they are basically worthless in a stand -up fight against most ships (especially an MBR, a good Priv could take out your empires minelaying ability in one turn my intercepting all of your Cats). In fact, be _especially_ careful of the Privateers, you might have a massive minefield ability, but if you don't use it, and an MBR or four gets to your starbases, you are FINISHED. An MBR will destroy any of your ships except the fighter carrier, and you won't be able to arm a fighter carrier because your fleet of Q-tankers went the same way as your Cats! =============================================================================
Hello, First of all, the Robots may have some heavy ships but they are quite weak if they are not being played right. Everybody thinks that the four times mine-laying is kewl.. but you need to know how to use it properly. When you are registered, make sure you start with little mine-fields. Depending on the host-settings that is. Because if you are allowed to create overlapping mine-fields, you can expand those little minefields later on, so that the change of a mine-hit increases. Just drop about 10 Mark 4's every time and let it grow later on in the game if you have found that 10.000.000 unity Insectoid planet, because you will need the money! I prefer to have Mark 4 launchers on my ship. That way i can make torpedo's in space, for just a little money. This increases the flexibility of your fleet. When you are playing shareware, just return to your starbase to drop the right amount of torpedo's each time. ============================================================================= As the Robot player, you have many huge, offensive ships at your disposal. However, most of them are not worth very much.. thus, you really shouldn't build more than one of any ship not on this list of decent ships (excl. frieghters): Cat's Paw Class Destroyer Q Tanker Instrumentality Class Baseship Golem Class Baseship Not much of a selection, huh? The Cat's Paw is invaluable, as it's minelaying value is great, and that is about all you have to protect against cloakers (considering as the Robot player, you don't have any patrol vessels). The Q Tanker is your most efficient fighter-builder, and doubles as your fleet supply vessel. Your Instrumentality is a fearful vessel; it can crush a Super Star Cruiser without breaking a sweat. The Golem is not too useful, due to it's very high cost; however, some situations are best handled by this behemoth. The Robots are one of the races that most needs traded ships; they possess, as aforementioned, no patrol vessels, and no support vessels (trade for a Gemini). Roger Burton-West Continued by: Gary Grothman, Gordy Pine, and Luc Projean. |
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